caught the second half

bummer. parham's prediction at 10:18 came true (note to Jumbos re: prophetic). RI missed a couple chances down the stretch (even before missing their final 2 shots).

dude

I know the argument that they didn't lose b/c of him, but my friend, I think it's a case of the intangibles. You could see it unravel from that point on. It was the domino effect, if I can use a scientific term. From that point on something we don't know what we're still investigating, but something was different. Right after that play, I think it was Grudzeaaelhfaenak made a rare error on routine play. Something strange was in the air that night, and I bet you it was one of those weird things where Bartboy wasn't even suppose to be at the game, but at the last minute by some freak lucky or unlucky occurrence he got tickets and then he was supposed to go get a hotdog with his buddy but instead randomly decided to stay back for one more out. It always happens like that, why? because it was in the cards.

I am prophetic

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/baseball/mlb/02/26/bc.bba.yankees.boone.ap/index.html

Man oh Man

1) Aaron Boone. What a funny character to be such a huge part of the Red Sox legend: he gets to the Yankees in like August, plays so-so for them in the season and horribly in the playoffs, then hits that fucking homerun, then in the offseason he tears his knee up playing bball, A-Rod takes his place, and that is the last time you'll ever see Boone in a Yankees uniform. Ridic. It would have been more appropriate for the moment if the homerun had been hit by Bernie Wiliams or some other great Yankees like Don Mattingly or Willie Randolph or someone. (Note to board: Jeter sucks sucks big time and his so horrendously overrated, just look at the stats, that if he was playing for the KC Royals no one would even know who the fuck he was.)

2) Pudge. Ridic. Loser. Idiot. Moves from Miami (WS champs) to Detroit (1 loss away from the WORST RECORD EVER) just because he wants some MORE millions.

3) Bartman. Dude, the Cubbies did not lose because of him. Even if Alou had caught the ball it was only the 2nd out. And then after that they gave up 8 (EIGHT) runs. Uhhhhh, I don't remember Bartman out there pitching up meatballs. That said, I really really really wanted the Cubs / Red Sox world series. I'm surprised that Selig didn't have enough foresight to tell the Umpires to rig the games just to get that outcome. It would have been easy for the Umps to call Bartman's ball an out due to fan interference.

boone/cubs

I know there are a ton of Bosox fans on the blog but seeing that homerun in that situation from that guy was an amazing sports moment. Not as good as Kirk Gibson's, but objectively speaking it was a classic moment in a classic rivalry. Once again sports lives up to the hype.

As for being heart broken, I grew up watching the cubs. They mostly interrupted my cartoon sequence on WGN: Popeye, Speedracer, Spectraman (notice the progression to more adultlike cartoons; smart programming). Anyway, I grew away from them as I became a tigers fan, but I definitely followed them during their recent playoff run. I was crushed when they lost that damn series because of that Bart kid. Well, anyway I think its tonight or tomorrow night that they're having a special Destroying of the Bartman Ball--a totally Chicago thing to do. Those are loveable losers. Speaking of that series Cubs vs. Marlins, I hated Pudge Rodriguez with a passion, but now he's my best friend--aaaaaaahhh the Olde English D.

an uncalled foul

I'm sure it wasn't the only one, but it happens to be the one that you remember because it was at the end of the game. Missed fouls are part of sports, despite things like instant replay. So to pin it on one missed foul isn't justified. If you go back and review the entire tape and tell me that there were 10 fouls that Stanford made that weren't called compared to 0 fouls for URI then you may have a case.

He lied about it? Have you ever heard a guy said, you know what yeah I fouled him. Never. They'll say it was fair contact or whatever. The part about Arthur Lee making the choking action, I agree, is bull shit. But Stanford is typically sportsmanlike. Montgomery is hardnosed about that kind of shit. At halftime of an Arizona game, he went over to the student cheering section to tell them that the heckling of AZ players for drugs or jailtime (I can't remember which) needed to stop immediately.

I read it

a couple of times, but every time it ends up with Stanford scoring more points than RI, leading me to believe that they deserved to win, but of course I'm basing this all on the number of points way of determining the winner and not on the numbers of rebounds or other statistics.

oh, what a nice message from Quilmes.

FYI

that last bit was what Jumbos was referring to as sarcasm

of course

Arthur Lee.

Oh yeah, Brevin Knight's last year they lost to Utah I think in the elite eight, when Utah had Van Horn. But I could be wrong on that too and I'm too lazy to Google it. Can you imagine that? Too lazy to Google it. Back in the day I probably would've had to go to a library and look this shit up in Sports Illustrated or old newspapers and I surely would'nt have done it. Now there's google and I'm still to fucking lazy. Weak Quilmes, weak.

PLEASE GOD DON'T LET STANFORD LOSE, I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE YOUR STANFORD CHILDREN MORE THAN YOUR OTHER CHILDREN

Brevin Knight

nailed some threes right?

I LOVE STANFORD

schilling, pedro, and lowe

My wife wants to see it

I'm waiting for a day when I'm real mad at God. I hear he gets his a$$ kicked pretty good.

parham

that's a lot of pounds, but things are 'spensive there too. you might be able to live under a bridge in one of the better neighborhoods.

sorry to vanish

some actual work came up and I had to deal with it. then when it was done, I had to leave for an appt. and didn't have time for a witty/snarky comeback for JH.

Living in London for 30K a year

Yeah, it's possible. You can live under the London Bridge, with all the hobos.

Message board silence, after awkward set of posts by Jumbos and Salamander.

Wait a sec

How did I get to be the bad guy all of a sudden?

deploying sarcasm detector

whereas before I would have thought, "oh, what a nice message from Jumbos", now I am thinking "well, he's just being a sarcastic jerk"

I'm sorry

for the mixup. I will try to be more obvious in my sarcasm from now on.

well, you seemed very sincere

and given your very frequent mentions of your past success in fantasy tourney it seemed like something you just might do.... I'll give you less (er, more?) credit next time.

Uhhh....

I thought it was blazingly obvious that my last post was a complete joke. No, I didn't Google that phrase. Come on, Salamander, that depresses me that you didn't get that joke.

How I found the page: I went to set up a March Madness pool for this year, and my Yahoo page told me that I already had a league and a team...which was last year's.

okay Jumbos

first of all, when I google what you say you googled I don't get the old tourney pages (even trying only some of the words)

second of all, I was amazed (and not in a good way) that you would google for that.

How I found the old tourney board

I did a Google search for "Jumbos 2nd place finish in Evolution March Madness" and that board came up. I also got results for the year before, when I finished 2nd, and also the year before that, when I finished 1st. I don't know how Google found that 1st place result.

how

did you even find the old tourney message board?

that is crazy

drug approved

i think the Imclone drug that just got approved recently was the one that initially didn't get approved and caused all the ruckus to begin with.

ImClone

true, the stock prices are back up. just last month a drug got approved.

message board from last year still active

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/men/

i can't believe this!

Stewart Irony

... I think I read that a couple months after the ImClone stock dropped, the ImClone got a different drug provisionally approved and the stock recovered most of its lost value. Can anyone verify this?

Perhaps more ironic that someone with a net worth in the $100s of millions would get so hosed over a trade worth a couple hundred grand.

I know

I agree it is about insider trading, and poor Martha was in a "damned if you do/damned if you don't" situation. I just think it is slightly absurd that she isn't even "technically" on trial for it. Why not? I mean if she did lie about it then she also did trade on insider info, in which case why isn't she on trial for that too?

Martha

The SEC asked her why she sold all her ImClone stock the day before their new drug failed to get some kind of development approval from the FDA. If she had said, "I sold it because my broker told me the FDA was not going to approve the drug development.", she would have been guilty of using insider info. She said, "I sold it based on a prior agreement with my broker concerning stock prices, etc." But the SEC doesn't believe her, so now she's on trial for "lying". But the whole thing is about the use of inside info for her sale of the ImClone stock.

martha and ralph

martha isn't even on trial for insider trading, it is for lying about it.

ralph - I think a lot of people are still angry about 2000 and blame him (not entirely justly, in my opinion) and so his campaign won't be percieved in the same way (i.e. mostly harmless) as before.

Martha, Ralph, BALCO, and all things havoc inducing

Martha shouldn't be guilty; who cares if she got insider info. That's what people pay all the brokerage firms for anyway--that is their job, to get more and better info on potential stock moves than the other brokerage firms. So everybody has insider info at some level or another. Defining what insider info is illegal and what info is legal is impossible. (On a side note, but related, is the fact that Cheney still has millions in stock options for Halliburton. No, he is no longer on the official payroll, but he owns fucking stock in the company. And so he pushes for the war in Iraq. Halliburton gets billions of dollars in contracts to cook for the Army and also to set up the oil biz. How is that for insider info.)

Ralph is an idiot for running. Yes, he's right that the two party system is flawed. But that doesn't mean HE is the one to end it by running again this year. It didn't work last time and it won't work this time.

How can BALCO be illegal but Barry not be using steroids?

who out there

can let me know what's going on with martha?

can we put her in jail yet?

I so sick of seeing her face on the news. Is that clown make up?

Nader

better not fuck shit up for the dems.

the guy has no chance. I bet the goddamned republicans are supporting him. Bush is a sneaky bastard or at least his puppeteer is.

the board

slows to a crawl . . .


Can I get a head count on the "republicans are idiots" members of the board?

UW

The Huskies have won 8 of their last 9 in the Pac-10, and are in 3rd place. If they beat NC State today, or Arizona next week, they will prob go to the tourney, I bet. They started the season 0-5 in the Pac-10, but are now 13-9 and 8-6.

good

I hope they only send one or at most two PAC 10 teams. They don't deserve it. Look at teams like my hometown university Western Michigan University (20-3). They're clawing to get into the tourney. A 16-6 Arizona team will probably make it in. Of course there are strength of schedule issues but 2 of those 20 wins were against Arizona State and USC.

And the best part is...

there's somebody, probably more than one somebody, out there in internet-world who read that piece and hadda spank it to the thought of Sporty passed out in her underwear on the floor of a tanning booth.

With one brown leg.

she'll never leave the house

with one brown leg. how horrible it must be!

well, I tried

but it is clear that I should just go home

VICTORIA BECKHAM FAINTS FROM TAN FUMES Former Spice Girl Victoria Beckham fainted from toxic fumes during a tanning session -- after a clumsy beautician forgot to clean the spray gun's tubes properly.

Victoria, the wife of soccer superstar David Beckham, was clad in her underwear for her weekly tan when the mistake occurred. And the error meant the 29-year-old singer -- who has since recovered -- was sprayed with chemicals but no color during the tanning session at her home in Hertfordshire, England.

An insider says, "Victoria was in her underwear and standing on a lot of old newspapers to prevent the color running on to the floor. "But it appears the girl spraying on the tan hadn't checked her applicator properly and it meant the nozzle was partly clogged up.

"After two minutes there was a really nasty smell in the room and Victoria suddenly went weak at the knees and fell over. One of her legs was already brown where some of the tan had gone on, but the fumes went straight to her head and virtually knocked her out."

I'd like to post

but it's the end of the week and I fear that my brain has already left the building.

why is this week a down week for posting?

i thought there were good topics of convo: 1) greg turned 31; 2) a-rod got megadeal and we flirted with a serious discussion about salary caps and capitalism; 3) haiti is experiencing a major revolution; and 4) i heard through the grape vine that feldman lost his virginity this week. those are good topics for effl posting, usually. is everybody writing grants or something?

that

was always a goodie

we

wanna pitcha not a belly itcha

eh batta, batta

how bout some chatter out there

i would have rather seen this post from Quilmes:

sheed
piston
hope

sheed

in a pistons uni
hope that guy turns his problems around

you know what I like best about this blog?

that you can edit posts. for example you can delete a post that somehow gets posted without your active involvement. or you can correct your spelling, for example if you misspell "previous".

Yahoo EFFL Board

It is kaput. Thank the good lord for Blogger.

small consolation/bullet dodged

Maddox signs with Cubbies.

Happy Birthday to Quilmes

i think it was the 16th or 17th. 31 years old.

Excellent points

Well said HT, probably my favorite part of your statement is that you referred to Simey as Warren.

Warren brings up very valid questions. But, and this the rub, professional sports should not be considered ~exactly~ like any other business. For ambiguous and potentially sticky reasons, people have to acknowledge the fact that gargantuan disparities in revenue and team salary are somehow not good for the overall health of a league. I don't have details or a point by point argument; I just have the point that all of Warren's questions are very valid IF AND ONLY IF pro baseball is actually nothing more than WalMart vs Target vs JCPenney vs KMart, and I for one don't think that baseball IS exactly like that. And I don't think Warren does either.

yeah, yeah

I do agree with your points. it just seemed whiny (not to mention borderline hypocritical) to complain when they were trying to get A-rod themselves (which would definitely have entailed an increase in Bosox payroll no matter the restructuring they did).

Henry not a whiner

He's just being honest. He's right when he says that money means absolutely nothing to the Yankees, and that is what he is talking about. Yes, Boston has the 2nd highest payroll, but they do actually consider money when looking for players--e.g. trying to get rid of Manny's contract and also trying to lower the value of A-Rod's contract. Also, Boston's 2nd highest payroll is something like 120 million, where the Yanks is like 190 million, which is incredible that the ~discrepancy~ between 1st and 2nd is greater than probably half of the other MLB team's ~entire~ payroll. That's absurd!

I hate to admit it

but Henry is becoming more and more of a whiner. this from the man with the second highest payroll in MLB. (Boston is apparently a bit over the 'cap', though the yanks can't even see the cap in their rearview mirror).

BOSTON - Red Sox owner John Henry now believes a salary cap could be good for baseball after watching the rival Yankees trade for Alex Rodriguez — a deal his own franchise could not complete.

Henry said in an e-mail response to reporters early Wednesday morning that he is changing his mind on whether the sport needs a salary cap "to deal with a team that has gone so insanely far beyond the resources of all the other teams."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=531&e=1&u=/ap/20040218/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_red_sox_rodriguez

baseball luxury tax

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2002/08/30/luxury_tax_ap/

the story is a bit old, but the numbers presumably are still good. teams pay for how much over a certain threshold they are and also the payment increases everytime they are over the threshold. the threshold itself increases over time.

i only know that the NFL, NBA, and NHL all have some kind of salary cap, and that MLB has some minor revenue sharing and luxury tax (if you go over 100 million dollar total salary per year you pay a tax to the league that is then spread out among the rest of the teams, i think).

salary cap for idiots

can someone go over the big 4's salary policies. I only have a vague sense of this.

I think there should be a salary cap in baseball. Look at how competitive the NFL is, and the NBA, too. Sure, you could argue that the Twins were good last year, and the Angels were good the year before that, but those are just anomalies in the big picture.

beer photos

they were tough to look at. is that Red Hook?

Jumbos' pics

were fine. I was struck silent by envy-- I wished I was having that pitcher of beer the size of Q's entire torso.

more on the evil empire

I heard last night that Greg Maddox might also go over to the dark side, but haven't seen anything today on the web.

surprised in seattle

i thought those pics would get some response on the board. so far everyone is quiet as mice. weird. hangovers from presidents' day?

those two pics below are primary evidence of Quilmes/Jumbos victory over Lottia/Chiefs in Mud Bowl IV. notice facial expressions on the winner versus the loser.

a-rod versus d-jete

if jeter injures himself again (and he does seem prone to it) then a-rod will most certainly move over to ss. what then when jeter comes back?

I agree, he (jete) should shift over to 2nd, or at least they should vie for the position at spring training with loser taking 2nd. the yanks need a third baseman though what with the idiocy of aaron boone (a-boo).

all in all, the yanks have suddenly become a much stronger team.

Happy Presidents Day

I hope others on this list are blowing off work today too, for America.


lazily,
RTA

fucking steinbrenner

unbelievable. all i can say is that, if jeter had any cojones at all, then he would voluntarily move to 2nd to replace soriano. because everyone in baseball and beyond knows that a-rod is twice the shortstop that jeter is, and that jeter's arm really sucks compared to a-rod's.

at least the yankees' pitching is still weak.

boo hiss

the evil empire is now pursuing A-Rod:

"NEW YORK (AP) -- Now it's the New York Yankees who are trying to trade for Alex Rodriguez.

The American League champions began preliminary discussions with the Texas Rangers this week on a deal that would bring A-Rod to the Bronx for second baseman Alfonso Soriano, a high-ranking baseball official said Saturday...."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-yankees-rodriguez&prov=ap&type=lgns

from ducks to moths

in appreciation for the duck link, I present the following...

http://www.bioone.org/bioone/?request=get-document&issn=0022-2585&volume=38&page=725

now, the birds and cat did not get sexually assaulted, but I'm sure the activity was nonconsensual as far as the pets were concerned...

Choke the Schmoe

Dude don't ruin the BLOG.

Posting is plummetting like the economy.

Only one other person has a lower approval rating than you.

Were you really in the military?

Hey!

how 'bout that Mars Rover? Spring training starts, like, tomorrow! Is it possible for Scott Peterson to get a fair trial anywhere in California? hmmm... slide, slump, or skid. how very thought provoking. and who doesn't love a water skiing squirrel?

important publication

I liked the thoughtful analysis "It is therefore highly unlikely that the drake was just passing by, saw the corpse and started to rape it"

Addendum

And this sentence, too:

"The mallard was still present at the site, calling 'raeb-raeb' and apparently looking for his victim (who, by then, was in the freezer)."

amazing duck paper

Parham, that paper is a classic. I was laughing hard the entire time I was reading it. And I laughed hardes when I read the following sentence:

"What still remains is the fact that NMR 9997-00232 was dead while he was being raped (one may argue that the copulation was no rape, but the act was non-consensual anyhow)."

frApPee trophy

is that gonna be a traveling trophy, like the Stanley Cup??
After Q eats it, he should bronze it and have his name engraved on it...
RTA

looking for career triple-doubles top ten

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Parhamtastic

I just got the FrAPPE trophy.

A bottle of Detroit Tigers Hot Sauce!

That's awesome. I was laughing from the mailboxes all the way back to the office.

Thanks.

predator gazelle

that is awesome. classic post, truly a classic post.

Just got his prey

feldman / simey

that car is awesome. is it still around? was that your car?

simey, that UC family is amazing. UC is the shit. i love the UC. it is the best in the US and the world.

relative

meaning the Celtics have plummetted. Point taken but still the Pistons haven't beaten the Pacers all year (0-4) and look like they're not on the rise but plateau-ing. Last year you could say "well they won't do it this year but they're definitely up and coming". I'm not sure they'll make it to the eastern finals. They don't play consistently enough.

4-0

Mexico whomps on US Olympic squad

Darko or Carmelo

what was Dumars thinking?
the Pistons look horrendous.

impressive

UC family connection. too bad marred by the one cardinal sheep

blog hijinks

sometimes it posts more than one copy of my posts too. sometimes it is the old and edited versions and I have to delete one.

these pictures are better

http://www.socceraddicts.com/FunnySoccerPictures.htm

speaking of soccer

predictions on the US/Mexico match tonight? can team USA redeem the pathetic showing of USA baseball (who were knocked out by Mexico)?

1. HT is Hawk Talon, aka Jumbos, aka Yours Truly (remember when Quilmes related the classic "boy from small town makes good" story about looking for Mammal Teeth out in eastern Montana?)

2. What about "Reverse Snowbirds"? I think you have to include some reference to weather and temperature in the term, if it what happened was that all these southern taxa moved north to escape the warming southern climate.

depressing story

that story was very depressing. you forgot to mention that the fans were rushing the court to celebrate after that particular player had the game-winning shot.

it was more depressing than the two-headed baby dying after surgery.

reverse carpetbaggers

I was going to suggest Democrats, but Montana is a red state.

all the terms I can think of relate to moving to the south (e.g. Retirees).

yeah,

I forgot to mention that critical piece of info that Howard is the one recognizing this change. I couldn't tell Compsemys from the other turtles. He came up and look at the collections made over the years and noticed this trend and it blindly turned out to match what we see in the mammals. There are other differences too, like a lower overall diversity and the smaller size of specimens referable to taxa that are in the upper Hell Creek but are larger there.

And I will check out that paper. Pat actually talked to Brinkman the other day about this pattern. Anyway, this is probably pretty boring to the rest of the board, although HT did find some of the specimens that we're talking about.

very depressing

http://espn.go.com/moresports/news/2004/0210/1731713.html

speaking of articles. This one is a real downer. Following a high school basketball game victory, the crowd rush the court to celebrate and ended up breaking this players jaw, and tearing his carotid artery. He is partially paralyzed now. He had a full scholarship to play volleyball at Stanford. bummer.

Reverse Carpetbagger Update

Parham there is now a turtle that will be implicated in the northward migration during mid-Hell Creek times. The little Johnny Reb is none other than Compsemys victa. It is not present in any of the turtle faunas from the lower Hell Creek yet it is very abundant in the upper Hell Creek. It first shows up in the same faunas that record the first appearances of Glasbius twitchelli and Essonodon browni. Now we have at least two mammals, a bunch of plants, and one turtle headed north during a climatic warmup. Vacationers, sun chasers, someone must have a name out there.

Discretion

Very wise, Parham, very wise. Everyone should read Parham's post about posting etiquette and quality. That is a classic. Forget about my proposed posting bylaw. Instead, focus on QUALITY POSTS.

I actually sent an invite to TCIII about this blog, but he never responded. I didn't know he went to UCSD.

Posts are now archived Weekly.

blog archives

maybe the blog could be archived more often than once a month. at least every two weeks, maybe weekly. this would save time uploading the new blog each time we post.

how about a size limit on articles?

journey could have deleted many of the blank lines so his article (however meaningless) took up less space and would take less effort to scroll past.

a ban will really put a cramp in Parham's style. plus, I thought the conjoined-turtle-twin article was really heartwarming.

I propose new EFFL bylaw

1. It should be illegal, or at least heavily frowned upon, to post entire newspaper articles, whether they be about conjoined twins, presidential candidates, or year-old articles about insignificant college hockey players at Division III schools.

don't

please don't Parham I'm starting to get some wierd visuals over here and now I can't work.

yep, I can

Man, I thought you were kidding but nope that's a real honest to god porn site.

pinkworld?

dude, I'm not sure I can visit that site during the working hours.

slow websites

i agree. espn.com is slow. so is cnnsi.com, because of all the fucking popups. so is boston.com, which is ridic slow. nytimes.com now has a popup, which pisses me off. sfgate.com (the chronicle's website, basically) is fast, and the sports there is fair enough, although not as complete as espn. pinkworld.com is pretty fast, although the sports info there is minimal. eurothumb.com has all you would ever want in info on the european soccer leagues, and it is very fast.

espn website

why is it so goddamned slow. It takes me like five minutes to load up a page. I just end up quitting in disgust. Is it because of all the traffic or because they have muscle heads trying to create webpages. I have no problems with any other websites. I just wanna drink my coffee and flip through the sports.

quarrelsome quilmes

RTAlma maters

The main one, Claremont McKenna College, was D-III, so out by JP's rules,
but I got a teaching cert. at Morgan State University, a TBCoU in Baltimore, MD which I believe is at the low end of D-I.

RTA

Alma maters

who goes with who?
I know Parham goes with RI, me with Stanford but what about the rest?
Utah State is that where Feldman is now? and Simison went to SDSU?

oh man

there he goes again; punctuated equilibrium of posting.

successful separation of conjoined twins - sorry no photos!

MESA, Ariz. - A pair of conjoined tortoises were separated Sunday at a Tempe animal hospital in what is believed to be the first surgery of its kind in Arizona.

"I think it was a great success," said Sharon Ehasz, 24, who owns the African leopard tortoises with her husband, Bobby Ehasz. "I think they're going to be a little confused — the world as they knew it is going to be somewhat tilted."

Peanut Butter and Jelly — so named because "you can't have one without the other," Ehasz said — were joined at the side of the belly near the tail end, slightly offset in a heart-shaped configuration.

The two tortoises spent about half of their lives with one on its back, the other trying to kick itself over. Bobby Ehasz, 29, said he and his wife routinely flipped over the tortoises, carefully logging the time one stayed on its back while the other was upright. "This is life for them," he said.

Veterinarians Jay Johnson of University Animal Hospital in Tempe and Jim Jarchow of Orange Grove Animal Hospital in Tucson worked for about three hours to separate the tortoises.

Johnson said the condition is "extremely rare." That's partly why Johnson and Jarchow agreed to operate on the animals at no charge to the Ehaszes, other than the cost for anesthesia and other items.

The Tucson couple said they were aware of the risks. But they bought the tortoises a day after Christmas with the intent of having them separated.

Both animals are expected to survive. And now to their delight, Peanut Butter and Jelly aren't a sandwich anymore.

heard me

heard me laughing, not hearding me laughing

re: message board skills

funny funny stuff. I think my advisor hearding me laughing on that one.

In the same vain, I have to compliment Jumbos on successfully orchestrating the transition to Blogger. I believe it is now officially funny. The evidence is overwhelming.

message board skills

the Chiefs needs to brush up on his message board skills. why?

well,

first of all he posts only maybe once a week. and then when he does post, he posts multiple times, all in one flurry of activity. that "punctuated equilibrium" style of posting doesn't really inspire the rest of us "consistent" posters to respond. that's just the way it is; i'm not saying we're right or wrong.

second, the Chiefs usually takes subtle and humorous posts and pushes them right over the edge... for example, the recent "reverse carpetbagger - as sexual position" set of posts. greg just mentions it sounds like a sexual position; he's being very funny here, because he is just planting the seed into our imaginations. next, Jumbos relates an obviously false story about Dennis Wall doing the reverse carpetbagger, and notes that it might involve chafing; again, no explicit mentions of anything, just innuendo and subtlety. next, in a brilliant post, salamander suggests that the carpetbagger is something that she might be familiar with, or might not, because she seems to know correct and incorrect methods, while again, there is no detail and no explanation. we all still remain deeply ignorant of anything in relation to this "reverse carpetbagger"...does it exist? how does one do it? do people on this board have experience with this mysterious position? how could it involve hurting greg's knee, and chafing, but the chafing is a sign of incorrect procedure? very mysterious. But then BOOM, the Chiefs posts about RUG BURN ON THE KNEES and CHAFING ON THE SAC. and all of a sudden i never want to hear about the reverse carpetbagger EVER AGAIN. too much detail; no need for the imagination; too explicit; no subtlety.

third, right after blowing the reverse carpetbagger theme out of the water, the Chiefs asks us to dwell on some out-of-the-blue sports terms. huh? what is going on here? i think this is a symptom of the punctuated equilibrium type of posting.

SO, Chiefs, you've been around awhile, and after all the potential you have shown in the past on EFFL boards, you have to finally start posting better.

chafing?

means you aren't doing it right.

the reverse carpetbagger

i think i remember that it involves a lot of chafing.

yeah, i think i've heard about that once. i think dennis wall told me that some chick did that to him in san francisco, after he had gone to the castro for halloween and got really drunk.

reverse carpetbaggers

sounds like a sexual move. Actually that's how I hurt my knee.

Mojados

i like the "Wetback Hypothesis" (Herbeck, pers. comm.) a lot. i'm laughing really hard right now. that would be awesome. i bet it would fly through review, too. but parham's suggestion is good, too. fuck, parham. do you always have to be better than me? do you always have to take my actions and say, "Well Herbeck, nice try but I can do better."???? Aaaaargh.

Johnny Rebs

I think that works, for example, Glasbius twitchelli and Essonodon browni are relatively abundant mammalian taxa in the upper Hell Creek Fm. of northeastern Montana and other temporal correlatives in the northern Western Interior. However, despite intense sampling, these taxa have not been documented in the older sediments of the lower Hell Creek Fm. or those of Campanian sediments in the northern Western Interior. Their earlier occurrence in Campanian deposits to the south in the San Juan Basin (New Mexico) implies that these goddamn Johnny Reb taxa headed north following a climatic warming event 66.00 m.y.a. Hereafter this hypothesis will be referred to as the "Wetback Hypothesis" (Herbeck pers. comm. 2004).

reverse carpetbaggers

A few suggested terms for Greg's displaced southern taxa:

1. mojados or wetbacks (since they are doing the same thing as Mexican and Central American immigrants to the US). this term is expected to be considered very un-P.C.

2. viator inferus (southern traveller in Latin, I think. The tenses are prob wrong.)

3. déli szakadár államok (southern confederacy in Hungarian)

4. losers

5. Johnny Rebs

Origins of the history question

Thanks for the responses. Now I'll tell you the stupid reason why I wanted to know what immigrants from the south were called.

I wondered if there was some sort of name that I could use to refer to a set of mammalian taxa that seem to have immigrated from the south to the north prior to the K-T boundary. Very dorky I know, but for some reason I thought there may be some cool name like "carpetbaggers" (which I know has negative connotations) that I could use in this paper. Although I think you're right Jim, I don't think I can use "ex-slaves". If you there are other ideas on it let me know. It would be nice to cite the effl blogger in the acknowledgments.

re: Q's history question

When I lived in Baltimore, there were families of white folks that had been there for generations, but mostly from ca. WWII, who had come from the South, or just the boonies of Maryland (much of which look someone stuck crab-traps into any freeze-frame from the Dukes of Hazzard), to get jobs. These people were (probably still are, not much social climbing going on in the ranks) urban hicks, Hatfields and McCoys on pavement, the ambitious cousins of the Appalachian families you see on tv at 3 in the morning whose kids all have dirt on their faces and nothing to play with but a board with a nail in it.

So to answer a question, maybe one just tangentially related to Q's original, we called 'em city-goats, or city-billies.

Ok, that probably wasn't related at all. Different war, different racial makeup, different set of circumstances altogether. Thought I'd share anyway.

RTA

woooooooooowwwwwwww

I've listened or watched most of the games this year and they keep topping themselves in terms of amazing victories. I thought the Oregon game was amazing.

I have a buddy that sometimes gives me his extra ticket. It's right on the floor behind the hoop. Could've said hi to Elin Nordegren but didn't get the call this time.

useful link

http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/ah_010500_blackmigrati.htm

Exodusters

went West

History question

Does anyone know if there was a name for people that headed north following the civil war? opportunists that headed south were called carpetbaggers.

freaky baby trivia

I was reading about the freaky baby and the article said that the second head would move its mouth when the real baby was feeding. aagh!

nice photo

didn't

touch the horse photo. only the cal one and that wasn't on purpose (I didn't intend to modify it or delete it). I think I had too many windows going and lost track.

sorry

I fucked up your earlier post trying to dissect it.

yes

wtf!?

I totally don't get it

bluebird it is

that purple shit is weird then.

dude, the pics! i need to know how to post the pics!

ok

well, somehow brian changed the color of the "evol..." heading to purple, which i thought he could only do with access to the templates, which he didn't have without admin access, so i gave it everyone anyway. i figured with simey's html genius he may be able to spruce up this shit.

and dude, how do you post the pics? come on, share the skillz.

http://nature.berkeley.edu/~herbeck/sumo.mpg

come on simey

work your html magic.

everybody has admin access now.

so do you what you do, simey

how about the pics? can't figure that out. i must be an idiot.

FUCK YOU THEN

you idiots

come on folks

share the skillz. who set up this fucking blogshit anyway? i aint' got the time to research how to change font size and post pics and shit. share the skillz.

simey

share the skillz, dude. share the skillz.

game

yeah, I went to the AZ vs. Cal game last night. If Midgely and Tamir could consistently shoot like that, they'd be in the tourney. The frosh are great. Powe has more than lived up to expectations. And Kately is gonna be good.

AZ has so much athletic ability but they don't play much like a team and with stoudamire covered like a blanket and Frye in foul trouble they were in tough spot, but of course made it close at the end.

what the fuck

with the purple heading? simey. how you doing that shit, since you don't have admin access?

nice link, parham
very nice

nice link parham

news

cal beats arizona. did anybody go to this game?

red sox sign trot nixon to three year deal. that's great. now if only they would release b.y. kim.

simey gets on this message board. let's all welcome simey.

breast

is that you Brian? you really should exercise more.

josh

what's your mailing address? Can't remember if you gave me that yet.

I reinvited Simey

Let's see if he figures it out. I figured out MIRC in about 5 minutes. It has taken Simey 48 hours and counting in order to figure out Blogger.

i'm not sure

about getting the posts numbered. i couldn't see anything on the settings page. that would be nice, though.

yeah, we evolutionary biologists are competitive. or, at least a certain small percentage that come out to play in mud bowls and also participate in fantasy leagues are competitive. we are kind of self-selected to give the impression that all evol biologists are competitive. i don't think spagna's friend would have had the same impression if he had seen tom stidham playing john hutchinson in a game of 1 v 1 basketball. just a thought, though.

speaking of competitive

is there anyway that we can get it so that this thing counts how many posts we have. That's a nice feature that keeps the posting fires burning.

haahahhhhaaahhhhhaaaaaa

at exaggerating too.

Competitiveness

the recent posts on who-beats-who-at-what reminded me... my friend Mike who once joined us for 8th street football was quite impressed by the competitiveness of evolutionary biologists, as a group, at things not science-related, from his fb experience. This from a guy who played college football and post-college rugby, and is a trial lawyer, all fairly competitive enterprises.

It must be a Darwinian thing.

yeah

simey told me that he sucks at golf.

so here are the sports that i KNOW i can beat simey at:

soccer
basketball (i beat him one on one in two games of 21 in 2002)
golf
volleyball
horseshoes
badminton
jacks
hopscotch

here are the sports that i KNOW i can beat greg at:

you name it. anything. and everything. except maybe pool.

golf? pool?

how is he at those?
I can't imagine he has the patience for golf.

simey's game prowess

i don't know about ping pong, but i bet he's pretty good. i once asked him if was good at bowling, and he kinda chuckled and said, "dude, i'm good. i have my own bowling shoes and my own bowling ball." i couldn't believe it.

pitchers

The reason you bought pitchers that night at the Hut is because Simey and I beat you in Foosball. Really Simey beat you, Journey, and me in foosball. I think I had about 3 own goals at least.

editing

oh yeah, "the gazelle gets it" or "the predator gets its prey". I was deciding between those two options and I made half the changes and forgot to fix it. Sorry guys, won't happen again.
My attempt at a series of clumsy metaphors worked better than I thought.

the gazelle

gets his prey? huh? dude i thought you were a biologist. what is the gazelle's prey? bunchgrass?


i did like the sole metaphor, though. not bad, not bad at all.

too slow

I missed my chance to capitalize on "huge ass blister".

Yeah, my shooting was and still is horrendous. But my defense wore you down like an old pair of tennis shoes that had been worn while riding a bike really fast down a hill while letting them drag periodically. You had no sole and eventually made the tragic mistake of leaving Quilmes open for a three to win the game. Two things you should always remember, never bet against a Sicilian when death is on the line and never never leave Quilmes open from trey-trey land when he has a chance win the game.

Soccer 1 vs 1 would've been messy. It would've been like penning up a gazelle (Jumbos) in a confined area and making him face the predator (Quilmes). Sooner or later the gazelle gets its prey.

journey

evidently misunderstands the utility of a message board. every post is NOT supposed to be an outright falsehood. maybe, maybe, every 10th post should include some stretching of the truth and some ironic braggadacio. but certainly not EVERY post should include un-facts, falsehoods, and misleading statements.

i am quite money from 15 feet, ask anyone who played noonball in bozeman last fall, and journey is hard driver who puts up airball fingerrolls after crashing through the paint. the truth hurts, journ, i know it, but eventually you have to own up to it, even if it is just a message board.

correction

that was a huge-ass blister on my heel, not a huge ass blister.

hahahahahaha.

journey you're dreaming

1) greg beat me in bball one on one, but i was wearing regular shoes and jeans and had a huge ass blister by the time i was leading 13-5, so i started walking on defense and next thing you know greg's trash starts going into the hoop and he wins 15-13. he never beat me in soccer one on one, cause he's too afraid to play. he knows that he is way too slow to stop me.

2) remember that you're playing bball against old timers in missoula, all of whom are over the age of 40 and under the height of 5'8", which makes your feat of a measly baseline layup pretty unremarkable. especially since you'r 27 and 6'3" and should be able to dunk.

effl t-shirts

i'm on that, but i'm not gonna be actually on that until this summer rolls around and we start hearing talk about nfl preseason.

Jumbos Hardware:

- many, many Cal IM championships
- EFFL March Madness 2002 Champion
- Mud Bowl IV, with Quilmes, although I think Journey and I ended up buying the pitchers at The Hut that night for some reason.
- many, many victories over Journey in 1 v 1 basketball, including Nerf Hoops and real basketball
- Cape Cod Amateur Soccer League Champion, Summer 2003
- many, many drunked hook-ups during and after IB-related parties

hardware

FFL Season III (no trophy or plaque or anything right???)
MudBowl III (team member w/Gruen, ?, no trophy)
FrAPPE I (Lions mug)
Mudbowl IV (team member w/Jumbos no trophy not even a lousy burrito)
JH vs GW hoops (TNT trophy)
FrAPPE II (????)

uh, wait a goddamn second

greg and i won mud bowl IV, not journey and simey. that is the only fact that i do know.

mud bowl iv

remember when me and wilson whupped simey and journey in mud bowl iv? remember how spagna and parham "had too much to do" to show up? what a day on the muddy field that was. the memories. the tight spirals, the jukes, the jives, the tds, the interceptions, and simey's pulled hamstring as he tried to follow one of my juke and jive moves. the memories.

sunny in seattle

kerry

looks like he will be the democratic candidate. i wonder if he can beat bush. i wanted al sharpton to be the candidate; that would have been awesome. seriously.

Remember Beavis and Butthead

it lives...

http://www.oregonlive.com/weblogs/print.ssf?/mtlogs/olive_oddblog/archives/print012411.html

this message board

seems to be working out.

FrAPPE

Thanks for doing the FrAPPE again Parham

Are we keeping this template?

I like it.

post erasing

don't do it

dude

we already had a conversation about this on the old board and you corrected my score then.

I had 9

I picked carolina over philly

I only mention it

because I was 1 point behind Quilmes after the AFC and NFC champ games.

final frappe scoring

wasn't it 5 points for picking the patriots? I think I had 9 points going in to the final round.

FrAPPE

good idea and follow through, parham.

And GM

I can't believe Simey is dissing this MB

bora

how many teams has he coached? usa. mexico. costa rica. hondu. is he going for all the central and north american teams?

he'll be back

only 8 1/2 years in prison?!

oh yeah?

KASSEL, Germany - A German who confessed to killing, dismembering and eating another man who allegedly agreed to the arrangement over the Internet was convicted Friday of manslaughter and sentenced to 8 1/2 years in prison.

Armin Meiwes, a 42-year-old computer expert, had no "base motives" in the crime, a state court ruled, sparing him a murder conviction.

Prosecutors had sought a life sentence, calling Meiwes a "human butcher" who acted simply to "satisfy a sexual impulse." They said they would appeal the verdict.

The defense argued that since the victim volunteered to be killed and eaten, the crime should be classified a mercy killing, which carries a five-year maximum penalty.

Before the verdict, Meiwes looked calm, chatting with his attorney and occasionally grinning for cameras allowed inside the courtroom. After the sentence was read, he shook his lawyer's hand and nodded curtly to the photographers.

Explaining the verdict, Presiding Judge Volker Muetze said Meiwes' intention was not evil but "the fulfillment of his fantasy."

His primary motive was "the wish to make another man part of himself," Muetze said. "Meiwes reached this bonding experience through the consumption of the flesh."

When his trial opened Dec. 3 in the central city of Kassel, Meiwes confessed in detail to killing Bernd Juergen Brandes, 43, in March 2001 at Meiwes' home in the town of Rotenburg.

Brandes traveled from Berlin in reply to an Internet advertisement seeking a young man for "slaughter and consumption." Meiwes testified that Brandes wanted to be stabbed to death after drinking a bottle of cold medicine to lose consciousness.

"Bernd came to me of his own free will to end his life," Meiwes said in his closing statement in court Monday. "For him, it was a nice death."

Still, he said he regretted the killing. "I had my big kick and I don't need to do it again," he said. "I regret it all very much, but I can't undo it."

A grisly video he made of the act was shown to the court during a closed session.

A doctor testified that Brandes died from loss of blood and that the medication, along with a half-bottle of liquor and 20 sleeping pills he took beforehand, could not have lessened his pain.

Several experts have testified that Meiwes was fit to stand trial and was not mentally ill.

Police tracked down and arrested him in December 2002 after a student in Austria alerted them to a message Meiwes had posted on the Internet.

"If I hadn't been so stupid as to keep looking on the Internet, I would have taken my secret to the grave," Meiwes said in his closing statement.

bluebird

I changed to blue bird.

here we go again

I still have admin access

when I go to settings. maybe since I haven't logged out since you changed it. I have decided that I don't care about the background.

a possible solution is for everyone to go to settings and pick the same template or just GET OVER IT.

weird.

i went to it once and it was all blue and completely different and now it is back to "normal". why??????????

changed again for parham's post

I don't know why it goes to a buffalo bills scheme when I post though.

now it is different again

what the fuck? i thought only i had access, and im' NOT doing this. this is bullshit. maybe we should go to the yahoo message board, parham.

it went to a different template

when parham posted (a template which I like, btw)

whenever parham posts

the blog goes back to that template with the links and archive on the left side, and everyone else lets it stay with the template with the shit on the right side. phantom is parham, and yet he doesn't have access anymore, so he can't be doing it on purpose. weird.

Who ARE you interlopers?

"James"
"Meredith"
"JH"

RTA remembers the days when RTA got flamed for referring to a fellow ffster using their given name.
RTA knows how to set up a blog account, and RTA has never done this before. Get it right!

RTA jr. leared how to laugh in the last couple of weeks. It's a kickass thing to hear. The farting was cool, but this is even better.

RTA

i don't know what is happening to this fucking blog

tigers in the world series? wake up, greg.

well it did change

though not to any template I selected. I give up.

testing JH hypothesis

to see if the template changes when I post

i think

that for some reason the templates seem to be personalized. so when i post we get this template, and when somebody else posts we get the other template. so i have frozen all access excess mine. if somebody wants to edit the page, just let me know and i'll open up access again.

phantom menace

i think it is greg

jebus

save us

Parham - just calm down

try to separate the content of the MB from the presentation.

it just changed again, and

i don't know why, cause it aint me.

ok

i'm not gonna change anything for a while. until i can get simey to change the orange.

phew.

any template is fine

as long as I can read the text and it isn't puke green.

not me

the only change I made was first thing this morning. I've just been watching since then.

shit

now its back

this is weird. what is going on?

i didnt do that

who did that? meredith?

one last try

i am

just trying to pleas you two. seems like noone else is reading this.

oh, greg. about fantasy baseball. no fucking way. it is way too ridic. takes way too much time. and if you get down early in the season you're fucked.

blue banner

you made it blue a couple times

how is this parham?

i really hate the orange background

but i'm done fucking with it. i can't figure out which html line in the template code is for that specific background.

here you go

tell me what you think.

NO

goddam blue background

the one with mostly blue in the banner

was good. i didn't like the orange/brown text in the banner though. can it be yellow or light green?

"no" to the blue and yellow message titles (though I like the cal theme)

so waht if i get rid of that orange, does the rest of this look ok? should i get rid of the yellow background to the titles? the titles themselves are smaller. this is herbert templat, parham.

the one that had all blue up top

was fine. blue bird also good.

still trying to fix this color shit

this is herbert

i'm just trying to get rid of the orange. i hate orange. that's all.

i liked the one

just before this one

when the background is the same color as the titles, you can still see them by selecting/highlighting them. but that seems a lot of extra effort

tell me

when to stop

what do you think

about this?

okay

if you are a buffalo bills fan

testing

no blue thing

it did have titles. they were the same color blue as the background. what about Herbert template?

testing

i agree

the titles on this one are too intrusive. i had to change it away from the vile pea green thing that was up this morning. didn't sit well with my coffee.

teseting

i'll see what i can do.

those guys getting shot are just disappearing. that's weird. and the helicopter is certainly hovering really stable. and don't the guys hear the helicopter?

fantasy baseball

anyone want to set up a league.
I think I'll stack my team with Tigers, unless everyone else drafts them first.

nice clip. is that real? if so, from when and where?

morning. still missing simey and GM. but spider dong has signed on.

Hi new board

I'll come out of retirement and post once in awhile here. I need some new tricks... haikus are tired and I don't rap. Sonnets are difficult. Rants may be a go, and soon.

RTA

phantom

no, I don't have time to be the phantom.
and yeah, I don't really have time for FFB either, but I kind of just wanted mention that the Tigers are gonna be worth paying attention to again. woohoo.
So Detroit sports are turning around, just like the auto industry????

i don't think so. at least, not as long as we use the blogspot server. if we can somehow set it up that we can use a server at berkeley, we could do everything the same but blogger would ftp the page into the berkeley server, and with that set up then we could post images and files and stuff.

huh

where the fuck are simey and GM?

back

nice. now we all have access.

I'm exercising my right

not to attend Herp Group. it is about horribly graphic diseases in frogs. probably something you'd like. I on the other hand am very tired.

going home now. I want this all sorted out by morning.

i don't know what happened to the links

did you

add evoldir and then take it away again?

i keep changing the links

maybe

it is because i invited you as "parham@socks.berkeley.edu" instead of "parham@socrates.berkeley.edu", and it is fucking up your access.

fuck

maybe we have to invite you again. i don't know why this is happening, cause on the members page you are listed and it says you have administrator status.

any luck?

links

keep coming and going.

I don't know

maybe a rally jibber would help?
or log out and log back in again.

parham

go to the new.blogger.com page, then on the right you'll see the Evolution FF link, right? if you click on that it should take you to a posting page, where right next to the "Posting" tab there are tabs for "Settings" and "Template".

close the blogger window

then go to the site again. I changed your settings. maybe it won't take hold until you come back??

links are back, but lost individual links

need to add them as you see fit.

shit

i think i lost the links

in the area where you would create a new post, at the top there are three main categories Posting, Settings, Templates. go to templates

uh-oh

now parham can change anything he wants

I think we should

design our own personal template. but i don't know enough about html. get simey.

admin status

parham didn't have it. i gave it to him. might regret it later

hows this

you can do it too

jellyfish

is the name of the template with the blue text in the header. the one we started out with.

see

template

I like the jellyfish one.

yeah

if i change the settings, then you all see those settings. right?

template

if one person changes it does that change how the blog looks for everyone?

you all know

that you all can edit the way this all looks, if you go to Template on the Posting page, right? you can use one of their regular templates or if you know some html (simey?) then you can do all sorts of shit.

maybe

it also dislikes posts that are only a period in length.

I think

that blogger has issues with time stamps and order of posts.

there was a duplicate of the "parham's post" posted by you but with a time of posting before the time on my post. also, you asked what I'm talking about but the time on that post was before I posted the incomprehensible post.

?? maybe someone is abusing their admin status?

I'm using "view blog" mostly. how are you posting after my post but with time stamps before my posts?

parham's post

it was there and then I refreshed the page and it was gone.

parham's posts also seem to be vanishing

We

post away just like on Yahoo.

parham

for some reason you aren't listed as a member of the blog, but you are posting, so what the fuck? weird.

here is parham

welcome dude. you have to click on the orange B to the right, and then you can see the Evolution Fantasy Football link on the right, and that will take you to posting. Not as smooth as Yahoo, but its not bad if you have two browser windows open.

Where is Simey

and where is Genital Modifications

i gave parham the new invite

lets see if he can figure it out this time.

on the proverbial curb

jh - parham needs to be invited again.

welcome

to totenkopf. parham is on his way. we're still missing simey and GM.

Where is everybody?

This shit is awesome. Timberlake definitely pulled Janet's top off on purpose.

hey

hey

Where is Simey?

and Parham?

Costume malfunction?

I bet it was staged, to try to make janet jackson seem hip, in much the same way that madonna kissed britney and aguilERa at the mtv awards. it doesn't look like a mistake when you see the reply.

for the record

Justin Timberlake said that it was a costume malfunction.

I'm in

no more cold curb for me.

bullshit

i can't get rid of that fucking banner.

blog

simey, you got to edit the template to get rid of this stupid add at top of the page. leave the orange blogger button, but get rid of that big banner. i tried but it seems to keep coming back.

where are simey and parham

huh?

janet jackson clip

http://webpages.charter.net/supersportchevelle/oops_janet_jackson_superbowl_half
time_titty.mpg

Now you all can edit this blog...

you can edit the settings and the template and the links, and whether or not you can put a Title on the post.

question

when you post on this board, do you see a Title box and a Post box? I do.

DUDE go back and invite hell benders in again. she's sitting outside on the curb that is the old FFL MB waiting to get into the party that is this BLOG.

THERE WAS NO REASON TO USE BOLD ON THAT POST
NONE

They dont call him PUDGE for no reason

dude, he's been a good player for a long time, yes, but why the hell would he want to leave the Marlins after last year? he's prob already a millionaire, and they offered him a lot, and he'd have another chance to win a world series. why go to the tigers, who suck? that tells me that he aint so smart, aint so smart at all.

Yeah, I hated him during the NLCS and the world series but now that we have him, I think he's great. It's just like Bill Laimbeer. Everyone else hates him but if he's on your team you like him.

As for being overrated. He's clutch. What happened to Varitek in the playoffs? He didn't show up like Pudge did. Illitch has money to spend, so if they can lure some guys that are pretty good to the Tigers than they'll do better in the standings and be able to lure even better players.

Pudge is overrated. His fielding percentage is 5th or 6th, even below Varitek's, and he is often injured, and, you can tell just by looking at him that he one cocky stupide motherfucker. I don't like him. The Tigers can have him.

WE GOT PUDGE! WE GOT PUDGE! WE GOT PUDGE!

In the second worst division in baseball, Detroit could climb in the standings. I'll say second or third.

Does anyone have a link to Janet's boob?
Man what was that all about. And why the single boob?

come on.

new links.

new template.

what is a blog? this is a blog. short for weblog. computer nerd shit. but hey, it aint bad, aint bad at all.

cause the yahoo one will turn off soon enough and we need to have something set up so there is NO DOWNTIME!

what the hell is a blog

the old message board isn't down though, so why'd you think we should switch?

everybody's got to get on this thing. it is not bad, not bad at all.

bruises are healing up. still a little bit sore, but nothing this guy can't handle.

what the hell is this?
Why'd you switch over?
How are your bruises?

come on people.

welcome to the new (hopefully) message board. i hope this works better than MIRC or whatever that shit was. and it is a nice cross between a instant messenger and the yahoo board.